NAME THE BULL!

[knabe]

http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&biw=1277&bih=874&tbm=isch&tbnid=AeWGecI-V80TbM:&imgrefurl=http://www.puregrassbeef.com/old_shorthorn_photos&docid=aUzkGrjE35brBM&imgurl=http://www.puregrassbeef.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/avondale.16172915_std.jpg&w=513&h=292&ei=W4IlUNSZOMnAigLpgIGYCg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=511&sig=110997426142151788076&page=1&tbnh=102&tbnw=179&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:75&tx=99&ty=59

lots of other pics as well

click on the pics themselves and they go to the source of the pic for a ton of pics

 

[Okotoks]

Yes GM it is Avondale, a son of Whitehall Sultan. He was born in 1905 and I took the photo from a 1910 sale catalogue of Maxwalton Farms, Carpenter & Ross.
Good link Knabe (thumbsup)
Here is the cover of the Sale catalogue with Avondale and what other Maxwalton herdsire?Also Avondale's reference page from the catalogue.

 

[Okotoks]

Somebody who was there must remember who the white bull is!  ;D

 

[GM]

Fair Acres Sultan, Renown, [Fill in the Blank] Sultan???  Impressive how big they were back then.

 

[Okotoks]

Fair Acres Sultan, Renown, [Fill in the Blank] Sultan???  Impressive how big they were back then.

This bull was bought to use on the Avondale daughters and does not carry any Whitehall Sultan bloodlines. He was imported from England where he had won some shows. Besides their size I find their length, smoothness and fleshing impressive.

 

[knabe]

Fair Acres Sultan, Renown, [Fill in the Blank] Sultan???  Impressive how big they were back then.

amazing what people knew back then.  they didn't have refrigerators so they had a milk cow or a dual purpose breed. some had beef cow and kept around the durham's.  cows are a storage device.  people harvested carcasses in the winter and hung them on the north porch to keep them cool.

my great grandfather purchased land that was sort of a wasteland that was a seasonal wash area. he put up tiny berms and collected his neighbors soil.  it is now wheat ground.  his neighbors told him he was stupid.  why would he want such terrible ground.  he came from denmark, so i'm not sure where he would have thought of this unless he saw some people doing it somewhere or just figured it out on his own or a combination.  he had lots of ideas.  

 

[GM]

Fair Acres Sultan, Renown, [Fill in the Blank] Sultan???  Impressive how big they were back then.

This bull was bought to use on the Avondale daughters and does not carry any Whitehall Sultan bloodlines. He was imported from England where he had won some shows. Besides their size I find their length, smoothness and fleshing impressive.

Shenstone Albino

 

[Okotoks]

Fair Acres Sultan, Renown, [Fill in the Blank] Sultan???  Impressive how big they were back then.

This bull was bought to use on the Avondale daughters and does not carry any Whitehall Sultan bloodlines. He was imported from England where he had won some shows. Besides their size I find their length, smoothness and fleshing impressive.

Shenstone Albino

Right again! As far as I know Shenstone Albino was more a show bull than a breeding bull. Did you find anything on any of his offspring?

I have added what appears to be the high selling female and apic of three other heifers in the sale. Some of the lots in my catalogue the had prices written in. $1300 in 1910 was probably pretty good!

 

[Okotoks]

Two photos didn't show up so will try again with high selling heifer.

 

[knabe]

there's absolutely no flex whatsoever in that albino bull's pasterns, especially the rear one's.

maybe it's just because he's on straw.

too bad there aren't movies.

went to a small show this weekend, and about 70% or greater of all the head had problems with their rear pasterns.

maybe some of it is because they are walking on shavings, but when i watched them walk on hard ground, the problem didn't go away.  depressing.  maybe it's because they are cooped up.

one guy i talked to that had a nice shorthorn heifer had nice flex.  i asked him about his heifer and he said she had just come out of the pasture a couple of weeks ago after being with a bull.

not quite sure why he was breeding her now.  maybe so she can be bigger and after she has her calf he can put her into either fall or spring.

 

[ruhtram]

Fair Acres Sultan, Renown, [Fill in the Blank] Sultan???  Impressive how big they were back then.

amazing what people knew back then.  they didn't have refrigerators so they had a milk cow or a dual purpose breed. some had beef cow and kept around the durham's.  cows are a storage device.  people harvested carcasses in the winter and hung them on the north porch to keep them cool.

my great grandfather purchased land that was sort of a wasteland that was a seasonal wash area. he put up tiny berms and collected his neighbors soil.  it is now wheat ground.  his neighbors told him he was stupid.  why would he want such terrible ground.  he came from denmark, so i'm not sure where he would have thought of this unless he saw some people doing it somewhere or just figured it out on his own or a combination.  he had lots of ideas. 

I like the little story about your grandpa..It doesn't matter what other's around you are saying, as long as you believe in what your doing.

 

[Okotoks]

I came across this photo of a shorthorn bull and wondered if anyone recognizes him.

 

[GM]

Gonna need a hint on this one...nice pic! 

 

[knabe]

here's a bull.  pretty much an outcross.  he's 75% shorthorn. he's a son of a prominent bull.

 

[fullblood]

what year was his prominent sire born?( I thinking he is a fullblood)

 

[knabe]

what year was his prominent sire born?( I thinking he is a fullblood)

Early 70's.

 

[fullblood]

I'm going with border creek future son

 

[knabe]

Bcf was prob one of the more moderate.

Not him.  Bcf was an Epinal son.  There will be a son of him hopefully coming.

He's an original import.

 

[Okotoks]

Gonna need a hint on this one...nice pic! 

Born in Alberta in 1981.

 

[knabe]

The bcf Son semen I have is not yet on ground.  There are embryos though.