Top 5 thickest shorthorn bulls available.

[RyanChandler]

Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit eh? My prior post had 3 sentences.  It’s as if you only read two, hit the bottle (again,) and then went back to typing.  Do yourself a favor and read posts more thoroughly- and in their entirety.  It’ll save you from a lot of confusion going forward.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Name the ones I have talked about that fizzeled and name the Shorthorn bulls you have been involved with that had ANY impact on the breed-hate to talk National or Louisville  champions Ive only been involved with 6 of those and bring your texas cattle up to southern kansas where my cows are in august-its hotter-no on second thought bring them now when its ten below zero-just dont get laughed out of the show ring-we do that on a national level along with weighing every calf and having real EPDS on the cattle-we have black crosses-heavens dont let friends cross breed or use cross bred bulls-we have friends across alot of breeds-we like farmers in general and grew up on a handshake-you clearly come from another generation. I suggest you take all the backtracking adjectives that you have just used to reinvent your thread in the last minute-and commit them to the algorthym down below-or basically state in your thread that you do not want anything but Angus and Native Shorthorn answers to your question or only those bloodlines specific to your interest and all others are unworthy of your consideration- O0

Go home dude. You’re drunk. Funny I’ve never read once where you alone did anything. Seems to me you pay people to raise your cattle and clip your calves. Then you show up at the show like some kingpin. I tried to be nice earlier. I liked the Compton Fresh Air bull. Even sent his picture in a private group text. But since I didn’t kiss the ring on this public forum I’m now just being a punk. Ok. I don’t care if I ever raise a national champ show bull. I sure as hell won’t pay somebody to raise my cattle either. It’s bedn below zero here for two days. Cows here get fed every other day. They don’t get any special care. I can promise you it’s colder here in Ohio than Kansas!//// Have to check the weather map-but I was referring to Texas in the tread anyway

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit eh? My prior post had 3 sentences.  It’s as if you only read two, hit the bottle (again,) and then went back to typing.  Do yourself a favor and read posts more thoroughly- and in their entirety.  It’ll save you from a lot of confusion going forward.

/// I must be-is it XLAX or EXLAX-my spelling must be bad too-maybe you were just showing  a humorous side calling a lady mother hen-In this modern world a woman's place must still be in the home O0

 

[RyanChandler]

Mother hen: a person who sees to the needs of others, especially in an interfering way.

 

[Dale]

Back to topic.  I have not seen him, but would RB Eagle 255 be one to consider?  With Real Silver both top and bottom of his pedigree, his thickness is not an accident.  255's sire, Eagle 148, sure sired plenty of muscle.  If JSF used 255, he is functional, and might save you time in the long run compared to using a sire not triple clean or one that is less sound. 

"Breeding cattle takes a lifetime," as a bull customer purebred breeder once said.  One master breeder said that it takes 5 or 6 generations to breed out unsoundness.  Sound ones are easier to look at.

 

[Duncraggan]

"Breeding cattle takes a lifetime," as a bull customer purebred breeder once said.  One master breeder said that it takes 5 or 6 generations to breed out unsoundness.  Sound ones are easier to look at.

I think this this rates as one of those 'nuggets' we should all remember!

 

[mark tenenbaum]

I was at Denver in 2004 when they had him there and I was dragging people over to look at him-Jungels never said a word-he was young then and had his hat pulled over his eyes probably thought I was a doofus YEA YEA he was forth in my class, Bloodstone was second I won and had the nt. spring calf champ-my bull was a big pet for an Angus family but just didnt knick with horns-If i could fault the Eagle bull as a show bull he did have some curvature in his spine but I really liked him. Of course it doesnt matter what you say-because his BW EPDS are above average-Even tho he will make 2 of alot of bulls.So now that this thread has had some extended modifications of required responses:My choice for; (a THICK BUTTED, STOUT, MANY GENERATIONS  DOCUMENTED. PROBABLY LOWEST BW EPD CE BULL LISTED, WITH GOOD NUMBERS IN ALMOST EVERY CATEGORY )  IS-DING DING DING-Homeplace HOT COMMODITY-See the thread on him here on page 2 for pics friends and neighbors  http://www.steerplanet.com/bb/the-big-show/homeplace-hot-commoity-1625-this-is-another-one-that-needs-collected/. I also maintain that the Fresh Air bull is another very useful bull. He has been very similar in BWs and much higher in real grow than his EPDS predict.-So-if I get a heifer by Fresh Air-she gets bred to Dales bull-Two distinctly different recent pedigrees that merge closer to each other.Hotcommdity: a little further back : Fresh Air through his sire Creole; and grandsire-Proud Jazz. They are both  examples of how you do what the original thread here asked for and ;I dont see: for my use, 2 bulls that are more complimentary-Hot Commodity is more moderate,maybe a little shorter and less extreme-but has a very nice profile looks very sound smooth shouldered ,real deep ribbed,and has-THE KIND OF BUTT I WANT from his Wildside dam Fresh Air is a bigger rugged made longer bodied bull,and heavier boned bull who is a good calver-very sound,makes show heifers that make cows-and very powerfull in his top-butt, lower 1/3 and general muscle pattern-BOTH bulls also have the kind of performance-or old blood cattle behind them that have worked for 30 years. If you look at both pedigrees and remember the RodeoxEnticer cattle like creole-Byland Mission, Keith Lauer bulls etc-they are all in-and they are the ones that unilaterally were reasonable calving and heavily documented . Not to mention having some of the highest yield grades on the ORIGINAL rounds of the Marc study of the late 80s early nineties .DOC on here has another Hot Commodity-that sires some nice calves(also pictured) and would fit this thread as well JMO- O0

 

[mark tenenbaum]

"Breeding cattle takes a lifetime," as a bull customer purebred breeder once said.  One master breeder said that it takes 5 or 6 generations to breed out unsoundness.  Sound ones are easier to look at.

I think this this rates as one of those 'nuggets' we should all remember!  (clapping) (clapping) (thumbsup) <beer> O0

 

[trevorgreycattleco]

I guess I should of specified earlier but purple banners are useless for this thread. I’m talking  red meat. More retail product. My guest isn’t to make a national champ.  My goal is to create a shorthorn that can be sold as premium beef. To promote the breed on its merits. Top one being the eating experience. As a small producer the first way out of business is to sell mediocre meat to people. If it’s not excellent they won’t return. Same needs to be thought of with the breed. It will take time. I can make 15-20 years worth of cattle breeding progress in 3-5 years with hogs. I know what I want to do will take a very long time. If shorthorns are to ever get rid of their Cleveland Browns reputation of the cattle world we have to start somewhere. Find the chink in the armor of the angus breed and exploit it.

Oakview, my hogs are 75% heritage breeds with a few shots of high growth Duroc. I’ve used Large Black for frame, Old spot, Red Wattle, and the last few years Mangalitsa. My hogs are trained to hot wire and they spend the majority of time outside. I find hogs kept in pens become restless and bored and then destructive and mean. I have a spring here at the farm that the hogs use all year round. I never have to water them. I just feed some grain every day and put out some round bales of hay. The only part that’s tricky is weaning time. The sows don’t like it and they let you know it.

 

[kiblercattle]

If you looking for red meat then imperative is probably as good a choice as anything going today. Wises have some pretty good data on how his calves preform.

 

[Hopster1000]

Thought I would post a bull from the UK. Bred by the Upsall herd in England and bought by Fearn Farm in Scotland. Dakota Of Upsall.

http://abri.une.edu.au/online/cgi-bin/i4.dll?1=3E373E3D&2=232F5F&3=56&5=2B3C2B3C3A&6=275C5C265921252421&9=5C5C5E5E

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=794176747365536&id=464311627018718&_rdr

The Facebook video is worth a watch. I know he's not available to North America, but he is thick, has a lot of natural muscle, is considered easy calving and has some of the best figures in the breed. Sadly he's gone now, but he has left a son, Fearn Godfather, an impressive bull also, who Fearn Farm recently bought him back for £20,000.

 

[huntaway]

The bull I have used for a number of years to attempt to add thickness is The Grove Kookaburra and he looks to be doing a good job for some in Canada. Haven't seen the Muridale bulls in another post from behind but they sure look good from a profile photo.

 

[coyote]

This is one of our thickest bulls we have raised Muridale Matt 37Y. He is Myostatin free.

 

[huntaway]

This is one of our thickest bulls we have raised Muridale Matt 37Y. He is Myostatin free.

Hard to imagine any more meat put on that frame

 

[Medium Rare]

The bull I have used for a number of years to attempt to add thickness is The Grove Kookaburra and he looks to be doing a good job for some in Canada. Haven't seen the Muridale bulls in another post from behind but they sure look good from a profile photo.

I used a son of his that Diamond raised and am pretty impressed with one of his calves in the yearling pen. He always had a big top, but he is really putting on the rear.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

This is one of our thickest bulls we have raised Muridale Matt 37Y. He is Myostatin free.

//// Any pictures of female progeny? hes way unique thats for sure O0

 

[idalee]

Looks impressive!  However,  the same muscle mass on a Frame Score 7 and a Frame Score 5 will look wildly different.    What is his Frame Score?

 

[mark tenenbaum]

If his legs were twice as long Hed still look freaky-like to see him from behind O0

 

[coyote]

I found a picture of a Matt 2 yr old daughter. The bottom picture is Matts dam.
I never measured him but I would guess he would be a frame 6

 

[kiblercattle]

Nice looking females!