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No need to apologize to me !! I don't give a rat's butt what you raise. I can pretty well guarantee that whatever you raise I won't be buying just like whatever I raise you won't be buying. We have different type buyers, so we raise different type cattle. As far as your bull goes, I was just...

So didn't you take a carrier to Denver ??

He's more Maine and RA, than he is Shorthorn. You say he is free of everything but he hasn't been tested?? Going back to Warhorse, Suds, & Improver he could PHA, TH or DS or all 3. Nothing in his pedigree that I saw had been tested.

What happened to the one post there this morning that xbar was talking about how many calves he had sired by Vanguard in like a 40 day window after he got him home and I want to say the heaviest one was like 85lbs ???

Man, I'm with Doc-sun. How bored, petty, vindictive do you have to be to dig something that old up just to say crap to Grant. We all know you don't like him. Let it go. It gets old seeing you slam everything he says on here.

I like his pedigree and the way he looks. The bad thing for me personally is that he is DSC. I'm not saying that I won't use a DSC bull, but when I do I want to make sure that rewards are worth the risk. On an unproven bull, I don't know that rewards are there. Hopefully he works out the best. ...

Good luck with that ! (NOT) Why stop there ?  I for one, am very pleased with my Red Advantage/Red Reward cattle.

I guess it would depend on what your cull criteria was.

It definitely could be an issue from something causing him pain when he try's to breed something. But I have seen some bulls that you just can't ever catch them breeding anything. They breed the cow once then never pay her any more attention.

So how is she bred? She may bred so that anything will be an improvement or she may just might be an outlier for those genetics that for some reason doesn't milk well.

Just bought this bull and got him home today. These pics are from today after 13 hours on a trailer and taken out in the rain. He's a 4 year old son of Little Cedar Aviator out of a  MM Radioactive cow. She goes back to a Shadybrook cow. He's triple clean. He was used in a commercial herd and I...

Look at AF Blue Moon. He is an I-80 son out of a Mirage cow. But he is free on all 3. J3 in New Mexico owns him. Sells the calves straight off the cow for show steers.

Just curious why you said you wouldn't dare keep any of the 8161 calves??

Look at those 2 catalogs that I mentioned. They were in there.

I'm right there with you. I was looking for a bull this spring. While looking at JSF, Byland, PVF I just couldn't bring myself to bid on bulls that are 3 to 5 frame. Obviously they have people that did, but they just don't work for me. Once again that's why everyone produces and raises what...

Are you looking for bulls that will sire calves bigger than 6 to 8 frame ?

As I've seen the rust spots start on the outside I've used that silver fibered roof covering that is like a thick paint with pretty good results. What about that stuff you see advertised on TV that they build the air boat out of?? I know they sell the tape and the paint version in Home Depot...

They look good.

Not much solar around here. When we bought our house 25 years ago it had solar panels on the roof for a water heater. Worked really well. About 10 years later, water heater got a hole in it and pricing a heater was $2k+ and a 6 week lead time(at that time). Replaced with an electric heater...