Launter Bulls 2010

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jallen

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The sad part is that most of them are out of heat wave or related back to him. I know he throws good steers but with as many people using him or the clones why use a son and which one do you pick since there ten or more sons promoted every year?
But yes I think his bulls look good I just wish there wouldnt be so many heat wave sons that get promoted and never seen anything worth a darn out of.
 

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jallen said:
The sad part is that most of them are out of heat wave or related back to him. I know he throws good steers but with as many people using him or the clones why use a son and which one do you pick since there ten or more sons promoted every year?
But yes I think his bulls look good I just wish there wouldnt be so many heat wave sons that get promoted and never seen anything worth a darn out of.

you need that many because they are a composite.  you need that many because they are a composite and will fill holes differently.  that's why i think the pictures are misleading as they all look the same and you can't see the differences.  no one will show the bulls or the calves without being clipped, which to me is why the slick shows came to be.
 

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Saw most of those bulls in Phoenix at the ANLS, or 15 bulls that he was thinking of taking to denver. He trucked out 15 bulls to clip out after the show for denver. The 3 best structured bulls before any clipping was a red one with a couple of white dots on the show side, the blonde one with the white on the tail, and a heat wave clone that was born on 2-4-09. A picture is worth a thousand words.

I really hope that you saw a very different blonde bull with white on the tail, or that your being sarcastic about his structure. When Chance led him to the stall I actually had to stifle a laugh behind holy smoke, texas twister was one of the most god awful structured bulls in denver! Bleh
 

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I have a weird feeling that true blood will make a really good one this next year..and I-80 is a freak..has anyone seen these??
 

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DLD- you will like what you get with Leroy. I just know he has work really well for us.
   

I heard the Leroy's were good until you get to the tail end and they just round right out. But it's whatever you like!
 

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i have heard of some bad experiences of people leasing lautner bulls.  Guy who leased tiger woods said he didnt even know how to jump a cow.  Also i know they can hide quite a bit in a picture of a bull, so if it looks like he has structure issues, then its probably worse than the picture shows.  Many of these 2010 bulls looked bad out of front end. IMO
 

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kane1598 said:
I have a weird feeling that true blood will make a really good one this next year..and I-80 is a freak..has anyone seen these??

Yes, freak is about the only way to describe him. He looked like his pic. Neck like a pencil, plenty thick...too good to be true kind of a look to him
 

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Show Steaks said:
My analysis of the bulls
3 of the 15 have semen available( i know still maybe a little early to aska  yearling to produce)
1 of 15 has th-pha listed
Missisippi Stud toes out as bad or worse than his sire
Indian Outlaw sired by same bull as carpe diem (tank is sired by heat seeker)
Texas Twister looks the smallest of the group
Gonna pick maxim as my favorite but i think i'll use optimus prime or bpf detonater before the rest of the new bulls

Heard that Total Solution son, I think it's Jesse James, was the dinkiest one in a dinky set in Denver. I believe what the guy told me was "there isn't a cow in the world that one will ever breed natural" ... I haven't seen them in person
 

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BrechtCattleCo said:
GC said:
DLD- you will like what you get with Leroy. I just know he has work really well for us.
   

I heard the Leroy's were good until you get to the tail end and they just round right out. But it's whatever you like!
You know you do have a point there! And I could really agree with that! They are really heavy muscled almost to a point where it is hard for them to stay sound in the final stages, if that makes sense. And they can get where they are really roached top especially over that loin area.
 

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I have not seen him, but the family that raised him also raised Ivy League's mother.  The Taylor Family from Vici Oklahoma.  They also raised Carpe Diem the herf.  They know cattle and this is probably a pretty good one.

Joshua
 

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j3cattleco said:
I have not seen him, but the family that raised him also raised Ivy League's mother.  The Taylor Family from Vici Oklahoma.  They also raised Carpe Diem the herf.  They know cattle and this is probably a pretty good one.

Joshua

Good info. Thank you.
 

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I'd like to hear some opinions from someone who has actually seen lautners new bulls, I can't believe that he wouldn't bring Indian Outlaw, I-80, Trading favors, and bulls of the such, but bring Cowboy, and Cold Snap to Denver. Just looked on his website, and he has pictures of Heatwave 12-15 on there
 

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trading favors was in denver as well as cowboy casanova,cold snap,texas twister,thriller and 2 heatwave clones out of all of phil's bulls texas twister was ok coulda used more hair and bone,trading favors was just ok coulda used a lil more top, cold snap was definitely useable but smaller made (nice for hfrs) I was not a fan of cowboy casanova at all, thriller was complete and pesented well like to see a little more foot size and bone but otherwise nice, matts bulls were i felt stronger boardwalk was really neat, smaller frmed but overall really complete, uno mas was a stout s.o.b. will breed similar to milkman in texas for slick shear deal in my mind,coulda use a lil more hair and a touch more extension, the heatwave clones were ok nothing over the top they wre also just loose in a pen so they werent really presented like the others
 

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What'd you think of trading favors? I guess I never seen him :'( Have a couple cows I think Trading Favors, Thriller, and I-80 could be neat on
 

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Would have to agree with steerjockey was not too impressed with trading favors, cowboy casanova, cold snap was just ok but he was really small and too short spined, thriller (if I remember him right) was a ligit bull he was stout and all his feet pointed forward(which was too much to ask for from most of the clubby bulls there)  . I thought the best bull from lautners was uno mas and the most complete. Now I would agree that you would have never have guessed that from the pictures but then again you took a look at the banners hanging above the bulls and you would have never guessed it to be the same one. IMO
 

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BCCC said:
What'd you think of trading favors? I guess I never seen him :'( Have a couple cows I think Trading Favors, Thriller, and I-80 could be neat on

I-80 has an odd head shape. Maybe just me. But that is something I always look at as well.
 
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