I heard that one of the owners of Timeline-- used him on 20-25 cows-- and averaged 120 lb calves-- and would never breed to him again. This was F2 knowledge- from a reputable source who got it from the horse's mouth...
So, then, when speaking of Timeline-- does that mean that all his owners are pleased with his offspring as stated?
OK... BS.. please send me a PM with this owners name. I have only heard of a couple calves assisted from Timeline, and this was one of the owners that turned him out with all his cows and heifers. He said he helped a couple heifers calve but they were not what he would call hard assists. I will know a bunch more in a couple months as we will have about 30 Timeline calves this spring. So far, I have had 5 calves from Timeline, and all have been unassisted with the heaviest at birth being 102 lbs. The two bulls I had last year were ET calves and they were 90 and 92 lbs. Shady Lane Rockstar, who was Agribition Grand Champion bull a couple months ago weighed 82 lbs and I have posted a couple pictures to prove it. Timeline himself was 105 lbs and he was the heaviest of 4 ET full sibs we had that year. I'm not saying he is going to be the easiest calving bull in the breed, but I have seen many other bulls that are much worse.
Shady Lane has the most experience using Timeline as he used him on all his cows for two years.... and so far he has not assisted a single calf. He took these pictures of Rockstar hanging in the scale when aj posted on here that there was no way there could be a Timeline calf that weighed 82 lbs. Since Rockstar has just been born that morning, he went back out and re weighed him, but this time he took pictures to prove his BW. I just don't understand you guys who think you know everything from 1000 miles away, have never seen the bull or any of his progeny, and think it is OK to publically spread things that are no more than rumour at best.
Since I read your comments here, I have started phoning the owners of Timeline. So far I have spoken to two of them( three counting myself) and when I told them what you had posted, Their reaction was exactly the same. I will not post their exact words, as I would probably get banned, but the tempered down translation is " What on earth is this guy talking about?" So Mr BS.... please send me the name of this owner and I would also like to hear where you heard this? I think at least
one of us three owners would have heard about this before now. There are only two breeders that have used him on more than 20 cows in any given year, and have calved them out, and I have spoken to one of them today. I spoke to the other owner a couple months ago, and he bred his entire cowherd to him. He told me he likes his calves, and did not say a thing about their BWs being out of line. I think he might have said something if he had problems, but instead, he asked who was going to use Timeline naturally this year and when he could use him again. So I plan to be phoning the rest of the owners that have used Timeline, and if your comments prove to be false ( as I expect they are) you can decide if you want to post an apology fully taking back your made up facts.... or you can decide how much you should budget for a liable suit. I would normally not even consider something like this, but I have a very good friend in the US who is a lawyer and I can't think of any other way to get through your obviously thick skull that posting comments you have no proof of is totally wrong! So I will wait for your PM.....