to many shorthorn breeders on here bashing herds and people they do not know or have not even visited their programs and hiding behind a computer,its sad -chasing a bunch of people of this board. i wonder how many cattle trever grey,sue,sjcattle,a.j., and feeder duck sell a year, they seem to have such strong willed views that surely their success has been amazing. PETA like tactics is not something that is respected. the great thing in this world is we get to decide what kind of cattle we like,what we believe is best for our program. i for one can not understand why sue ,a.j. or trever want 5 frame bulls on angus cows,just seems like your leaving to much free perfomence- thats not real world economics to me= how ever they may be in a differant region or market then me. there is so many markets and opertunities breed what u like,diversification is healthy for a breed.lack of respect for mankind is not.