Shorty hf bulls

[aj]

I like to think of it as the Democrat and the Republican in debate on the fox news how or whatever. Verbally sparring and within inches of each others bad breath.........then after the show out to Antoines for drinks. ;D

 

[aj]

"Bud light salutes you aj, over agressive steerplnaet disscussion guy. 27 years ago you were cut from the debate team. Now you attack disscussion boards with the fury of a pit bull. No topic  remains undisscussed as you sling salty retoric at the one you dislike the most. The evil jit. For two years you have laid awake at nights thinking of digs and snappy remarks to counterreact jit's 5 paragraph disertations on bwt's and their correlation to performance. Then you jump up and stick the pin the voodo doll hanging from the ceiling. After googling for 7 hours in order to find a weakness in jits latest statement, you fall asleep with a smile and drool coming out of one corner of your mouth. You have won tonights debate on the virtue of pelvic area slopein buffaloes and corresponding calving ease resultation. Heres to you mr. over agressive steerplanet disscusion board guy.      Sponsored by the wide mouth mickey brewing company of mount sunflower.

 

[sjcattleco]

"Bud light salutes you aj, over agressive steerplnaet disscussion guy. 27 years ago you were cut from the debate team. Now you attack disscussion boards with the fury of a pit bull. No topic  remains undisscussed as you sling salty retoric at the one you dislike the most. The evil jit. For two years you have laid awake at nights thinking of digs and snappy remarks to counterreact jit's 5 paragraph disertations on bwt's and their correlation to performance. Then you jump up and stick the pin the voodo doll hanging from the ceiling. After googling for 7 hours in order to find a weakness in jits latest statement, you fall asleep with a smile and drool coming out of one corner of your mouth. You have won tonights debate on the virtue of pelvic area slopein buffaloes and corresponding calving ease resultation. Heres to you mr. over agressive steerplanet disscusion board guy.      Sponsored by the wide mouth mickey brewing company of mount sunflower.

LOL  (lol) now thats funny

 

[Aussie]

"Bud light salutes you aj, over agressive steerplnaet disscussion guy. 27 years ago you were cut from the debate team. Now you attack disscussion boards with the fury of a pit bull. No topic  remains undisscussed as you sling salty retoric at the one you dislike the most. The evil jit. For two years you have laid awake at nights thinking of digs and snappy remarks to counterreact jit's 5 paragraph disertations on bwt's and their correlation to performance. Then you jump up and stick the pin the voodo doll hanging from the ceiling. After googling for 7 hours in order to find a weakness in jits latest statement, you fall asleep with a smile and drool coming out of one corner of your mouth. You have won tonights debate on the virtue of pelvic area slopein buffaloes and corresponding calving ease resultation. Heres to you mr. over agressive steerplanet disscusion board guy.      Sponsored by the wide mouth mickey brewing company of mount sunflower.

aj the best post you have ever put up (lol) <beer>

 

[trevorgreycattleco]

"Bud light salutes you aj, over agressive steerplnaet disscussion guy. 27 years ago you were cut from the debate team. Now you attack disscussion boards with the fury of a pit bull. No topic  remains undisscussed as you sling salty retoric at the one you dislike the most. The evil jit. For two years you have laid awake at nights thinking of digs and snappy remarks to counterreact jit's 5 paragraph disertations on bwt's and their correlation to performance. Then you jump up and stick the pin the voodo doll hanging from the ceiling. After googling for 7 hours in order to find a weakness in jits latest statement, you fall asleep with a smile and drool coming out of one corner of your mouth. You have won tonights debate on the virtue of pelvic area slopein buffaloes and corresponding calving ease resultation. Heres to you mr. over agressive steerplanet disscusion board guy.      Sponsored by the wide mouth mickey brewing company of mount sunflower.

Perfect. I'm still laughing. No offense to anyone but that is funny.

 

[frostback]

What makes it really funny is that he thinks he won a debate with JIT. (lol) (lol) (lol)

 

[aj]

Please hold the applause and fan mail. ;D

 

[Doc]

Please hold the applause and fan mail. ;D

aj!! A legend in his own mind!!!

 

[aj]

Would a polled longhorn be of value? Maybe East of the Missisippi? Its important.

 

[jaimiediamond]

Would a polled longhorn be of value? Maybe East of the Missisippi? Its important.

Ironically enough for someone who knows all the answers you definitely ask a lot of questions, that are not relevant to your original thread.  I believe what we were discussing was Shorthorn Heifer Bulls, where to find them.  You argued with everyone's ideas and solutions.  If you ask a question about a topic expect a variety of answers.  

At this point aj you have decided to insult anyone who has a different view or opinion from yours.  I reread my post and I found it actually quite accurate and not insulting to any breed.... You however insert words in my mouth, insult my other interests and degrade my knowledge due to other interests.  At no point did I deserve your response to my post.  It was not intended to be taken negatively, in fact the American Longhorn was developed by natural selection I recommend you read the American Longhorn Association's website and Wikipedia. Or for easy verification "History of the breed; The first cattle to set foot in North America and the only breed of cattle to evolve without human management, the Texas Longhorn can thrive in country where no other breed can live; subsist on weeds, cactus and brush; range days away from water; and stay fit and fertile whether it’s living in the scorching, parasite-infested tropics or in the arid, subzero winters of Montana. [ [http://www.ctlr.org/history.html Certified Texas Longhorn Registry] ] "

Welsh Ponies actually aren't my project to do with horses by the way that is my mothers, again you use assumptions and throw them out in public.  I am 24 I have a herd of 15 cows all of which I have raised, my average birth weights are in the high 80s, my bulls are sold to purebred and commercial breeders in the area.  I raise and show Thoroughbreds, Trakehners, and Arabians.  I admit to the horse thing with pride in case you misunderstand that since everything needs to be put in simple terms or it gets twisted out of proportion.  

My questions to you aj is what are you doing with your program? Who are you selling to? I ask these as you obviously have huge issues with birth weight, calving ease, and easy fleshing ability since these are things you constantly degrade Shorthorns with.  So I am asking aj are you really a Angus breeder trying to stop the rising wave of Shorthorn popularity with your negativity? (by the way it won't work)

 

[aj]

I like to discuss breeding philosophies. I think it looks hoakie if I were to try and sale cattle on here a discussion board. Buy an ad instead of coming on here and sell your cattle free of charge. I think its special you have cows and horsies. I do think its weird that that your reply and jit's reply and commercial farmers replies always look and sound exactly alike. I just assummed you were relation or something but I guess all Canadians all write alike. I can't remember bashing your program. I will say that I have lived beside feedlots. I have worked in feedlots. I have clocked in at 5 in the morning to run feed truck. I have read bunks for feedlots. I have worked cattle in feedlots in 10 below zero. I got a little goofy when someone with your massive life experiences explains cattle feeding to me. If you want to know what I have done to mderate my birthweights? I finally had to go out and buy a Red Angus bull. I tried to buy lower bwt bulls for years and no had any. I have lowered my BWt's ave by about 15# on about 90 cows in 6 years. My average bwt used to be 100 and it is now under 90. Seriously I wish the best for horsies and longhorns and whatever.I have tried to get jit to admit that the Shorthorn in general has a calving bwt problem. |He will not admit it. Then comes the speech how hes the greatest shorthorn breeder in the world and he sells 30 bulls ayear and he is as close to jesus in Canada as anyone. He will not admit it. I think it would look better if you guys changed up the format of your responces. I currently have an speech analalysts studying the handwritting and style of the afor mentioned paragraph stlye. Just kidding jit you are god in my book.

 

[jaimiediamond]

I like to discuss breeding philosophies. I think it looks hoakie if I were to try and sale cattle on here a discussion board. Buy an ad instead of coming on here and sell your cattle free of charge. I think its special you have cows and horsies. I do think its weird that that your reply and jit's reply and commercial farmers replies always look and sound exactly alike. I just assummed you were relation or something but I guess all Canadians all write alike. I can't remember bashing your program. I will say that I have lived beside feedlots. I have worked in feedlots. I have clocked in at 5 in the morning to run feed truck. I have read bunks for feedlots. I have worked cattle in feedlots in 10 below zero. I got a little goofy when someone with your massive life experiences explains cattle feeding to me. If you want to know what I have done to mderate my birthweights? I finally had to go out and buy a Red Angus bull. I tried to buy lower bwt bulls for years and no had any. I have lowered my BWt's ave by about 15# on about 90 cows in 6 years. My average bwt used to be 100 and it is now under 90. Seriously I wish the best for horsies and longhorns and whatever.I have tried to get jit to admit that the Shorthorn in general has a calving bwt problem. |He will not admit it. Then comes the speech how hes the greatest shorthorn breeder in the world and he sells 30 bulls ayear and he is as close to jesus in Canada as anyone. He will not admit it. I think it would look better if you guys changed up the format of your responces. I currently have an speech analalysts studying the handwritting and style of the afor mentioned paragraph stlye. Just kidding jit you are god in my book.

Jamie....when I see Dale tommorro at Century feedlot tommorro I will pass on your advice. I'll tell him that a welsh ponie breeder from Canada recomends not feeding longhorn cattle. And I will remind him to mention in his shareholder meeting in two weeks to remind the shareholders that this deal is about profit and not for the fun of it. And I will tell him that you look down on those 1200# Red Angus cows that have have calves that weigh 85# and are the mothers of the14 pens of grid master winners he has fed in the last 8 years. Those Red Angus cattle gaining 3.7 with 5 % 4's and cost of gaining .69 cents. Running around 95% choice. And featured in this last months Red Angus journal. I think he will be impressed with your cattle feeding knowledge.

That isn't bashing? Where the heck did this come from??

 

[Okotoks]

I like to discuss breeding philosophies. I think it looks hoakie if I were to try and sale cattle on here a discussion board. Buy an ad instead of coming on here and sell your cattle free of charge. I think its special you have cows and horsies. I do think its weird that that your reply and jit's reply and commercial farmers replies always look and sound exactly alike. I just assummed you were relation or something but I guess all Canadians all write alike. I can't remember bashing your program. I will say that I have lived beside feedlots. I have worked in feedlots. I have clocked in at 5 in the morning to run feed truck. I have read bunks for feedlots. I have worked cattle in feedlots in 10 below zero. I got a little goofy when someone with your massive life experiences explains cattle feeding to me. If you want to know what I have done to mderate my birthweights? I finally had to go out and buy a Red Angus bull. I tried to buy lower bwt bulls for years and no had any. I have lowered my BWt's ave by about 15# on about 90 cows in 6 years. My average bwt used to be 100 and it is now under 90. Seriously I wish the best for horsies and longhorns and whatever.I have tried to get jit to admit that the Shorthorn in general has a calving bwt problem. |He will not admit it. Then comes the speech how hes the greatest shorthorn breeder in the world and he sells 30 bulls ayear and he is as close to jesus in Canada as anyone. He will not admit it. I think it would look better if you guys changed up the format of your responces. I currently have an speech analalysts studying the handwritting and style of the afor mentioned paragraph stlye. Just kidding jit you are god in my book.

So driving that feed truck at 5 in the morning didn't help you figure out how to moderate birth weights in your own herd without going outside the breed? So Jaimiediamond bred a bull at 17 (yep that's 7 years ago) that produces calves under 85lbs. and you have to go outside the breed! Quite the testament to your breeding ability and very original. Next you will be telling us the whole Durham Red deal came from that breeding guru AJ!

 

[Cowfarmer65]

I can see this thread has gone downhill big time.
aj...........it's not that many years ago that anything less than a 100 lb bwt everyone considered should be knocked on the head and put out of it's misery. Not just in the Shortys, but every breed. There are bound to be some high bwt calves show up in every breed............EPD's only work if an honest bwt is reported...........lie about the birth weight and all of a sudden you have a curve bender in EPDs.
Now let's get back on track. I want to hear about more honest low bwt bulls and not more verbal diarrhea from south of the border.

 

[Okotoks]

I can see this thread has gone downhill big time.
Now let's get back on track.

Absolutely Right! Someone mentioned JSF Capiche at Select Sires.
His  BW EPD is minus 3.7 and calving ease is +6.9 actual birth weight 73 and adjusted is 77. Looks like a good option.

 

[Cowfarmer65]

Saw 3 Capiche calves at a local fair this past weekend...........very clubby and sweet fronted.

 

[jaimiediamond]

Waukaru Patent 8161 X

BW 0.00
WW 30
YW 52
Milk 5
CE 5.7

 

[DRB]

Saw 3 Capiche calves at a local fair this past weekend...........very clubby and sweet fronted.

Good to hear.  I bred 15 to Capiche this summer, looking for some moderate frame females.  Hope to reduce BW too, I'll let everyone know how that went when they arrive in April '11.

 

[sjcattleco]

i have seen 2 and could not believe the leg under them!  granted their mothers were tube gutted and ran around on stilts but Capiche certianly did not change that trait!

 

[aj]

JIT....going to be hitting the corn pretty hard tommorro. If you need me to proof read or need any advice call me on my mobile....785-694-3028. Reception can be pretty bad in areas though.