Shorty hf bulls

[coyote]

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[coyote]

There you go Dan , with my computer skills I got it unlocked for you. Bye a beer for me in Regina is all I ask.

 

[Okotoks]

There you go Dan , with my computer skills I got it unlocked for you. Bye a beer for me in Regina is all I ask.

Super hero, computer hacker you are the man! I for sure will get you a beer <beer> (thumbsup)

 

[r.n.reed]

So what milestone will we reach first, 1000 replies or100,000 views?

 

[vanridge]

Thanks Dan!! OK everybody.....where were we....  (clapping)

 

[jason]

All someone had to do is just pm me.  ;D

 

[sue]

So what milestone will we reach first, 1000 replies or100,000 views?

Gary. For me My milestone has not changed. I seek commerical calving ease shorthorn genetics - like line bred - not a 110 BW sire that some how produced a calving shorthorn sire?? My agenda has not changed if you have bred shorthorn genetics for commerical acceptance - good chance I already knew about it.
Good chance that if you are making fun of a bull like captain ... you're just jealoous. I applaud my breeder friends and partners in this investment. Corn at $7.40 looks ok with me ... cuz I have prepared the myself and breeders that believed from the beginning like LE.

 

[Okotoks]

So what milestone will we reach first, 1000 replies or100,000 views?

Hmm, I'm guessing it will be 1000 as we have lots of options to discuss (thumbsup)

 

[Okotoks]

All someone had to do is just pm me.   ;D

That would have been a lot easier!
Thanks for opening the thread back up <beer>

 

[sue]

So what milestone will we reach first, 1000 replies or100,000 views?

Gary. For me My milestone has not changed. I seek commerical calving ease shorthorn genetics - like line bred - not a 110 BW sire that some how produced a calving shorthorn sire?? My agenda has not changed if you have bred shorthorn genetics for commerical acceptance - good chance I already knew about it.
Good chance that if you are making fun of a bull like captain ... you're just jealoous. I applaud my breeder friends and partners in this investment. Corn at $7.40 looks ok with me ... cuz I have prepared the myself and breeders that believed from the beginning like LE.

Good chance you've done your homework . Call me if you need assistance

 

[frostback]

Are there any calf photos of CO offspring or did I miss them earlier? I have dial up and dont get to see half the photos on here.

 

[thunderdownunder]

OH MY GOODNESS IT'S UNLOCKED!!!
Now I can sit back and watch again  (pop)

 

[wyatt]

me to haha (pop)

 

[r.n.reed]

So what milestone will we reach first, 1000 replies or100,000 views?

Gary. For me My milestone has not changed. I seek commerical calving ease shorthorn genetics - like line bred - not a 110 BW sire that some how produced a calving shorthorn sire?? My agenda has not changed if you have bred shorthorn genetics for commerical acceptance - good chance I already knew about it.
Good chance that if you are making fun of a bull like captain ... you're just jealoous. I applaud my breeder friends and partners in this investment. Corn at $7.40 looks ok with me ... cuz I have prepared the myself and breeders that believed from the beginning like LE.

 

Interesting comments Sue and I am not sure why they are directed at me.For me milestones are markers along the way to your final destination,a point of reference to see if you are making progress or not.Sometimes,somthing like 8.00 corn comes along and you have to make a major detour or worse than that change your final destination.The only question is who gets hurt the least with these high feed prices.The blow has been softened by higher cattle prices but the consumer has begun to resist so we have to adapt our operations to this new scenario.Complicating this of course is our extended reproduction cycle compared to other species of livestock.
I try not to comment on cattle here unless I have seen them in person and like them.I have not seen CO in person.I have seen his dam and I think she is the kind of female a lot of cattlemen would utilize in their program.I have also spent a day at Dover's in 2005 and wish it had been a week.One of the things that he said that has stuck with me to this day is that he had been working on moderating birthweights since the 80's and was somewhat frustrated with the progress that he had made.

 

[jaimiediamond]

I have found a very helpful tool when I see a bull I am interested in and I am unable to go myself. What I do is  I ask someone I know and trust that has seen the bull.  They give what they saw, what they liked and of course the bulls faults.  No bull is perfect with that said if we work as a community of Shorthorn breeders we can really get some things done as long as there is no hidden information (BW tampering for example) . Bull "A" may not work on my program whereas Bull "B" does, but that doesn't mean that either bull isn't a option for many breeders depending on climate and their customer needs.  <beer>

 

[r.n.reed]

Here is some reliable criteria for finding a calving ease bull,
  1.The operator is 50+ and does it by himself or very little help.
  2.They have a lot of cows or a fair amount of cows and a full time job,
  3.They have used the same bull 3 yrs.in a row.

 

[trevorgreycattleco]

I dont think she was referring anything about you in particular mr reed. What I read she was doesnt want to hear about a calving ease bull if their sire or grandsire had a 110 lb bw. I dont think it was directed at anybody IMO. Mr reed, your cattle have earned their rightful place the old fashioned way. They earned it.

 

[r.n.reed]

Thanks TGCC,I was hoping that was the case since we agree on way to much.In fact we had a good visit this afternoon and my post actually reinforces  the general theme of her post.Thank's for the call Sue.One on One communication still ''Trump's''[If I may use that name loosely] the written word.

 

[garybob]

Angus- Spur Emulous Master. I know where there are over 200 registered, line-bred descendents, near the Osage River , in southern Carroll County, Arkansas.

Shorthorn-So many to pick from, among those already mentioned. My hands-down, or "hands Off" pick, because, i never touched a calf during birth, would be Oaklawn Dreamworks*. Yes, he was horned, and, yes, he carried an asterisk in his ASA number. Yes, he was sired by a son of Tarheel Drive and a Hoyt cow. He was still the most dependable sire I ever used. people didn't like him, in 1999,because he wasn't a 7.3 frame score.

GB

 

[Okotoks]

I try not to comment on cattle here unless I have seen them in person and like them.I have not seen CO in person.I have seen his dam and I think she is the kind of female a lot of cattlemen would utilize in their program.I have also spent a day at Dover's in 2005 and wish it had been a week.One of the things that he said that has stuck with me to this day is that he had been working on moderating birthweights since the 80's and was somewhat frustrated with the progress that he had made.

There is no doubt there would be a lot of ideas on what progress in BW’s was. I’m sure most would be happy if they had the Dover birth weights. If one sets about lowering BW’s with a linebreeding program which includes several irish bulls it may well have slowed the process down. You can actually linebreed sometimes and not get any improvement and often lose ground. The next question is what happens when you outcross your line bred animals. You look at some of the popular bulls for calving ease and they have numbers like a negative 9.6 on the paternal grandsire but the important thing is how they themselves are breeding. If a bull A is consistently giving you calving ease the fact the grandsire was not a calving ease sire probably means that bull A didn’t inherit those genetics.